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Interesting article I came across...
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Protofascism Comes| The Rise of the TeaParty
by Ted Rall
SAN DIEGO—Is the Tea Party racist? Democrats who play liberals on TV say it isn't. Vice President Joe Biden says that "at least elements that were involved with some of the Tea Party folks expressed racist views."
Certainly a sizeable minority of tea partiers' "take America back" rhetoric is motivated by resentment that a black guy is president. "Take America back" from whom? You know whom. It ain't white CEOs.
Yes. The Tea Party is racist. But racism is only one facet of a more sinister political strain: a protofascist movement.
Robert O. Paxton defined fascism as "a form of political behavior marked by ... preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."
Typical Tea Party rants fit the classic fascist mold. America, tea partiers complain, is falling behind. Like Hitler, they blame leftists and liberals for a "stab in the back," treason on the home front. One major component is missing: aggressive militarism. Certainly most tea partiers support America's wars and the troops. But tea partiers focus on domestic issues. The Nazis didn't make much of their aggressive intent until after they seized power.
Because it has no central leadership and because it's easier to attract new members if you never say anything specific, ideological vagueness is a defining characteristic of the Tea Party movement. Indeed, ideological imprecision tends to increase as you move from left to right on the political spectrum.
On the left, communists are specific to a fault. Programs, five-year plans and one tract after another are the order of the day under socialism. Moving right, bourgeois organizations such as the two major U.S. political parties have platform planks and principles, but tend to be mushy and flexible. As we move to the far right, as under Hitler, ideas become grand, sweeping, meaningless slogans "Take the nation back!" "Death to the traitors!"
Umberto Eco's 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism" describes the cult of action for its own sake under fascist regimes and movements: "Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation."
Note Republican Sen. John Cornyn's choice of words when he defended tea partiers: "I think it's slanderous to suggest the vast movement of citizens who have gotten off the couch and showed up at town hall meetings and Tea Party events, somehow to smear them with this label, there's just no basis for it."
Eco also discusses fascism's "appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups." Guard the borders! Deport the immigrants! Mexicans are stealing our jobs!
So much anger. It's too bad that the (justifiable) rage of the white male middle-class is directed against their fellow victims. It's worse that they're playing into the blood-soaked hands of their own oppressors.
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There are a lot of things Michael Richards says that I agree with. I live in a city where Hispanics comprise 60% of the population, yet are considered a minority. I get the "Great White Father" arriving to make America his, stealing it from the Native Americans, Texas from the Mexicans, etc. And I'd love to discuss this..great thread..short on time, damn it. So true, when our kids were in High School..they're in their mid to late 30's now...they'd get called White Bitches by the Black girls..but let one of mine call a Black girl a Black Bitch and all fucking shit would have broken out. And, yes, in a 60% Hispanic city of 1.8 million there's the Mexican-American Young Lawyers Assoc, etc..
You get the idea, and it's frustrating being a Liberal in the Big State, because the feelings I get if I so much hint at an anti Hispanic or Black person in a less than "Good to see you..how you doin' way?" I'm considered a racist. Maybe I don't feel cheery and I'm not going to falsify my mood lest I be perceived a RACIST. Fuck 'em all. I'm going to go watch Woody Allen.
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| Posted On: 07/29/2010 At: 10:19:38 PM | | | Reply Link |
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Originally posted by johnny
There are a lot of things Michael Richards says that I agree with. I live in a city where Hispanics comprise 60% of the population, yet are considered a minority. I get the "Great White Father" arriving to make America his, stealing it from the Native Americans, Texas from the Mexicans, etc. And I'd love to discuss this..great thread..short on time, damn it. So true, when our kids were in High School..they're in their mid to late 30's now...they'd get called White Bitches by the Black girls..but let one of mine call a Black girl a Black Bitch and all fucking shit would have broken out. And, yes, in a 60% Hispanic city of 1.8 million there's the Mexican-American Young Lawyers Assoc, etc..
You get the idea, and it's frustrating being a Liberal in the Big State, because the feelings I get if I so much hint at an anti Hispanic or Black person in a less than "Good to see you..how you doin' way?" I'm considered a racist. Maybe I don't feel cheery and I'm not going to falsify my mood lest I be perceived a RACIST. Fuck 'em all. I'm going to go watch Woody Allen.
Try it living on a Indian reservation. I'm surprised I didn't get killed instead of just kicking their ass. I wasn't racist in the least, until after that shit. And thats after growing up around the Rose Bud Res. and seeing all of that. And that leads into tossing the race card any time to disagree with the POTUS. It's destroying what real harm racisim does.
As for the Tea Party stuff, the left has to do something to dull the edge. It's growing, and they don't know what to do but make it the boogie men. And the the right thinks they are on their side, and that should provide some entertainment this year and in '12. Both parties are clueless. Shara Palin as the next Hitler makes me LOL.
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johnny, i know whay you mean. double standard when it comes to use of whites and blacks or hispanics too.
yep gimpy, big bad white guy
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| Posted On: 07/31/2010 At: 10:34:36 PM | | | Reply Link |
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Guys I truly don't understand what you are talking about even after readfing you Johnny and Gimpy two times. Look we are all human beings and color is not even in the analysis except e all have biases from our lives and environment. If we were all blind we woulkd seperate according to our spreech sounds and our thoughts..but in the end wer are all just alike. We have just grown apart. We need to remember that from time to time and we don't have to like each other but we should respect each other for our humannity sake.
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| Posted On: 08/01/2010 At: 10:59:57 PM | | | Reply Link |
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yep gimpy, big bad white guy
Not so much big & bad, as just pissed off that I'd never had to deal with it, and became a instant minority. Sorry, I'm not going to play that game. After that was a Mexican group, not really a gang that started the same shit. Sorry homie, I do not do that. Detention after school was just study hall as far as I cared. Drop the top 2 and the sea parted. (Chairgirl, if you even read this, it was Lit's & Vega.) Litz, I blacked out on and about killed the prick, Vega was just a one shot drop. DO NOT PISS OFF A BIG FARM/RANCH BOY! And it took them a lot of pushing to get me to that point....
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| Posted On: 08/01/2010 At: 11:09:20 PM | | | Reply Link |
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Originally posted by Paulwa
If we were all blind we woulkd seperate according to our spreech sounds and our thoughts..but in the end wer are all just alike.
Don't forget smell! It wouldn't matter if we all looked exactly alike, we would find something to allow us to dislike one another.
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| Posted On: 08/01/2010 At: 11:19:56 PM | | | Reply Link |
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Too bad that seems to be human nature, Flicka.
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| Posted On: 08/02/2010 At: 01:34:41 AM | | | Reply Link |
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I disagree, hate is a cultural bias, based on the fear of someone taking what we have or we believe we deserve to have. Often taught by group leaders (people of perceived authority or wisdom, often but not always religious) or family members. As it was so well put in South Pacific.......
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear
You've got to be taught
From year to Year
It's got to be drummed
in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught
To be Afraid
Of people whose eyes
are oddly made
And people whose skin
Is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be taught
Before it's too late
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8
To hate all the people
your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
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Originally posted by Gimpy77
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Originally posted by johnboy
yep gimpy, big bad white guy
Not so much big & bad, as just pissed off that I'd never had to deal with it, and became a instant minority. Sorry, I'm not going to play that game. After that was a Mexican group, not really a gang that started the same shit. Sorry homie, I do not do that. Detention after school was just study hall as far as I cared. Drop the top 2 and the sea parted. (Chairgirl, if you even read this, it was Lit's & Vega.) Litz, I blacked out on and about killed the prick, Vega was just a one shot drop. DO NOT PISS OFF A BIG FARM/RANCH BOY! And it took them a lot of pushing to get me to that point....
I should add, that I never threw the 1st punch in any fight. And it took a LOT to get me pissed enough to get into a fight. BUT I never lost one either. I hated the people involved, not the whole freakin' race. I'm a Red Neck, not a Racist.
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Originally posted by Gimpy77
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Originally posted by johnboy
yep gimpy, big bad white guy
Not so much big & bad, as just pissed off that I'd never had to deal with it, and became a instant minority. Sorry, I'm not going to play that game. After that was a Mexican group, not really a gang that started the same shit. Sorry homie, I do not do that. Detention after school was just study hall as far as I cared. Drop the top 2 and the sea parted. (Chairgirl, if you even read this, it was Lit's & Vega.) Litz, I blacked out on and about killed the prick, Vega was just a one shot drop. DO NOT PISS OFF A BIG FARM/RANCH BOY! And it took them a lot of pushing to get me to that point....
I should add, that I never threw the 1st punch in any fight. And it took a LOT to get me pissed enough to get into a fight. BUT I never lost one either. I hated the people involved, not the whole freakin' race. I'm a Red Neck, not a Racist.
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